[Wicked Shadow]

Hey J, sweetie, you can take segments and save them on your computer doesn't mean that you wrote them. Second, I didn't make Jesse post, nor did I make Rhett email you. I simply let him know what you were saying bitch, and he took it upon himself. Third, we didn't ASK you to write the CD, you took that upon yourself because you wouldn't wait for Rhett and I to get to it and you just had to be involved in some way.

[Jason]

Don't you like save... the entire show on your computer? That MIGHT have something to do with it, no?

Oh wait, I'm not supposed to remember that, am I?

Fuck.

[Kris]

But didn't you know? Only one member of any given couple at any given time can think for themselves!

[Shane Lawson]

LEAVE BRIT-- Er... *clears his throat* LEAVE J ALONE~! [/chris crocker]

[Alyon Mac]

NOW everyone cares about HVW.... awesome.

Anyways, just let the fed die. No one cared about it. Could people have busted their asses and make it work? Absolutely. Did we feel it was worth it? No. The show exemplified characters who had been there since the very beginning in the end. It was MY idea to make Cam Davitt World Champion as a tribute to the work Paula has done since the beginning. Say what you want about how things have gone down, I believe longevity counts for something and I wanted to see the World Title end on someone who was there since the beginning and cared than someone who mocked me when I pointed out that they had just no showed for the fed they were World Champion of.

In the end, i really don't care about HVW anymore. I gave what I wanted to give and the rest is in the past.

I like most of you guys, actually to be perfectly honest all but one of you, but the fed is done. We did what we could and while most of you left angrily, you all came back at some point so at some point in your life HVW made you happy or made your life OK enough for you to want to be a part of. Think about that moment and maybe, just maybe you won't be such a miserable person. That's what I'm going to do.

I love you guys, and thanks for the memories.

Alex.

[HardyGirl]

See, the difference here is that I can talk to you and not call you names. Yet I'm supposed to be the immature one. Go figure that one out.


But more importantly... NONE OF THIS MATTERS. It's a game, one that I'm sick of and have very little time for right now. Keep bitching to your hearts content though, if it'll help you sleep better. Just keep in mind that I truly don't give a shit.



Thank you Alyon for expressing what I was actually about to type. If it wasn't for this e-fed bullshit, I really do think that most of us would be good friends. Just we (and notice I'm including myself in that) sometimes take things in this game entirely too seriously. And I'm sick of it. If anyone actually cared WHY I decided to close HVW, that right there is a big reason. This game turns people into vicious assholes. And I don't want to be like that, or see anyone else like that. And since it's clear to me that most of you don't care, there isn't going to be that OOC explanation thread, because quite frankly, if you don't already know all my reasons - you don't deserve to.


With that, I am done with this thread. Feel free to continue bitching, name-calling, whathaveyou.

[Nash]

Yeah. Thank god someone else sees that. If it weren't for here I wouldn't even have MSN. Downloaded it during TWW days when I met everyone there. Previous to there, I was just content to browse forums without a messenger, just PM. But then I got close to everyone and said meh go for it. In the end, it's the game that brought us all together. It's the game that got us to know what it's like to have true fun. Who cares about whether someone got screwed or what got written... all that matters is the friendships and often families that were created during these forums.

[BigAnt887]

I'm just going to ignore all the crap that's been said in this thread because this is not about personal issues. You can make it about that if you want, but everyone here was a part of HVW at one time or another. Everyone has had fun with it at one time or another. If you didn't have fun, then you would not have stuck around, plain and simple.

From a personal view point, I have had my ups and downs with HVW more than anyone. Yet, I'm still here and have returned twice. I even sought this latest opportunity/comeback because I have a profound place in my heart for this fed and the people that make up this place. When I decided to come back this last time, I really thought we could make this work. I was so willing to do whatever it took. But if it's not there you have to learn to let go. But I will not dwell on the bad.

I will remember this place for all the fun and good it brought me. I've been connected with some people in HVW since I was 17 and in high school. I'm now 22 and have started a career and still love e-fedding.

Thanks to all the people that gave me some great memories. You know who you are.

[Star]

Alyon Mac, on 03 February 2010 - 10:10 PM, said:

NOW everyone cares about HVW.... awesome.

I couldnt have said that any better, and I truly mean that in all sincerity.

Where was everyone when we were trying to make this place work? Strange, if you look at the last show we had not just a newbie no-show, not someone who is known for no-showng no show...but the world champion who did say other places he didnt care he no showed. I won't admit I'm perfect, I've no showed, and if there is a consequence to that, so be it. In fact, as hard as it may be for any of you to believe, I was actually willing to fight and keep HVW open, had talked to J and Alyon about how to go about that right until Saturday night when the efforts weren't there.

I won't get in the middle of the argument about the segments, about the angle because I may have misunderstood someone along the way. Unlikely, but possible. As for the way the show ended, Randy actually had his match in either Friday or Saturday with both endings, didnt have to be reminded once. That type of effort is appreciated. I've been helping to post shows and do segments on top of rp'ing and other CC stuff (Destruction and Apocalypse were shows I have done recently)...and they went up after I begged or hounded people to write matches for me, not a fun way to spend one or two days. But even at the ppv I wrote a match, and if everyone had just chipped in, maybe HVW would still be open.

BTW Ant, I'll say this for everyone to see, we may not have always seen eye to eye, but i wish your return had been more triumphant. I had some great ideas in mind for Grave Digger and other characters but alas, maybe another time, another place. Who knows.

Any further complaints I suggest you direct to PM boxes to your heart's content. Ant is more then willing to listen, hell so am I. I know that I am practically the devil reincarnated but I've also come to greatly respect a few people who in the last four years I would have killed for doing less or saying less towards me. But complain away. I may not have the answer except to say this.

I was told AFTER the decision had been made about the World title. I had no hand in it, I didnt ask for it. Honestly I had a feud planned out that would have maybe me becoming the World champ anyway, but unless we switch time lines, we'll never know for certain. But I feel that complaining that the world champion lost when he no showed and didnt care? I dont know alot of feds who would stand for that these days. In the least the world champion would be lucky to walk away with the title, if not having their asses handed to them.

That's all.

[Wrestling Ninja]

I'm never around these boards; makes sense, since I have no interest in what goes on here anymore.

I don't care the fed has closed, it makes sense.

I'm not gonna jump all over J...it's her decision.

What I'm mad about...for whatever the reason...is how Eric is acting like he's fuckin' J's personal watchdog, like he's a goddamn chichauhua. Don't sit back when the fed you're a part of closes, and start throwing the blame out every which way, that's just ridiuclous, and childish, and stupid, as is half this thread. For fucksakes, just close the damn thread already...I don't know what is going to be accomplished here by keeping it open other than more of Eric jumping on people like a pitbull....just craziness, man....fuck...

[Nash]

You know exactly why I snapped. Every time I get on, it's always fucking bashing for supporting the fed where it all got started. No chance in hell am I gonna apologize for not letting a fed corrupt the way I think. J has been my best friend since practically early 2004. It would be completely retarded to toss away a near six year friendship out the door all over a couple of fake results. Be realistic for once. And no I'm not gonna sit here and make excuses. I know why this fed died. But that doesn't mean I can't enjoy the memories for what they are. It's still the place where I met half my damn contact list. It's still the place where it all got started. We all as human beings come back to our roots in some form whether its while adult, seniors, youngsters, whatever. I just can't explain in enough words how much this place means to me. So for once, let it end on a good note rather than trying to dig up the past.

[Alyon Mac]

[Alyon Mac]

Oh and I almost forgot...

[Randy]

Just to clarify a couple of thing.

#1: Once the decision was made Sunday for this to be the last show, me and Rupp didn't care for our match being quick resulted. I didn't feel like writing it and Rupp had tons of school work to do so it didn't matter to us. If I woulda cared, I woulda wrote the match myself. But I didn't so it is what it is.

#2: I'm not asking for any rewards here but all things considered, what you people are all ignoring is despite Alex no-showing, I wrote a proper main event. Grant it, I sent in the match on Friday before the roleplay deadline. And if we were as callous as you people make us out to be; the Daniels character would've had been squashed to high hell. So losing the title wasn't that bad. You're only picking a fight because of your Anti-HVW/PWC bias. You're only picking a fight because some of you are bitter. But anyway.... (awaits demonizing response)

If Alex lost the title and looked like the Brooklyn Brawler, you'd have every right to complain. But I wrote a decent match. Not the best match but at least the character looked good. Like I said, if we were as heinous as you guys are painting us, the match would had been the squash of the year. Hell, the match I wrote didn't need to be posted, an entirely new and squash like match could've went up in it's place. But it's just like some people to seek out the negative and blow it out of proportion.

And yes. Us. I am (or was) part of the CC for the final show.

And Phil's right. This thread needs to be locked. It's been locked by me.

Have a nice day.

In closing (at least for this post) some of you got what you've been dying for. HVW is dead. To say I'm shocked by the piling on by some of you would be a lie. I expected it and that's the sad thing honestly. My question is what are you gonna do now? You no longer have HVW to paint as the devil incarnate. You no longer have us (there's that word again) to make into the vile vicious monster of the e-fed community. While this place did have it's flaws and it's past and everything else... I can honestly say that J and Paula are two of the most decent human beings I've ever met, and mind you, I was banned from this place, I too had my issues with booking decisions and results, and like some of you, I once saw this place as the great big evil of the e-fed world.

But you know what I did? I grew up. I let my bitterness for this place die. I tried in whatever way I could to make this place a better place to fed; I was the good guy. I didn't demonize, or complain or waited for something bad to happen so I have an excuse to complain on these forums.

Where were any of you with positive critic?

Where were any of you with suggestions to make this place better?

Where were you to participate, to write matches; to help make this place a better environment instead of injecting this forum with your bitter attitudes, your petty vendetta's.

No. All we got was your holier then thou attitudes. Instead of helping, some of you just contributed to the demise of this fed.


You people might see what you were doing as some kinda virtue but one of these days, when you have no friends; when no one can stand to be around you because you're miserable, vindictive and not so fun to talk to... you'll change. But until then HVW is dead. Move on. Really.